20060806 KDDC Rudy Giuliani on immigration reform

Rudy Giuliani on immigration reform
Posted August 6, 2006

I found this on the Weekly Standard's web site:

Former Mayor Giuliani is correct. Please see my Tentacle column from May 31st, 2006: "The Great Mexican Maginot Line."

According to the Weekley Standard:

Thursday, August 03, 2006

Rudy on Immigration

Last night, in an interview with Fox's Bill O'Reilly, Rudy Giuliani again put himself squarely in the president’s camp on immigration reform. The mayor is for tough border security, but he has also made the case in recent speeches that real reform must include a guest worker program and a “path to citizenship.” On Fox, Giuliani argued that comprehensive reform is not only practical but also aides in fighting crime and thwarting terrorists. Some highlights: GIULIANI: Yes, yes. National Guard short-term solution makes a lot of sense. Increasing the border patrol. O'REILLY: In the long term. GIULIANI: Long-term over a period of time would be the permanent way to do that. But you've got to seal the border. And you've got to do it with personnel. And you've got to do it with technology. You've got to have both. And we have to know who's in the United States. We need to have information about who's in this country. And then you have to have a way in which people can regularize themselves as well. I mean, you need to get people out from under the table. O'REILLY: So you would give them a pathway to citizenship? GIULIANI: I would say -- this is a classic thing where you've got to do both, carrot and stick. O'REILLY: Yes, but you got to do -- I think the stick first. GIULIANI: You've got to do both. O'REILLY: You know, you stop it and then back. When you were the mayor in New York, illegal immigration rose in this city tremendously. I mean, you can't get a cab now with an American in there. GIULIANI: But crime declined immensely…. GIULIANI: The Immigration and Naturalization Service would only deport 1,500 to 2,000 a year. So I said to myself I have 398,00 illegal immigrants because the federal government is not going to do anything about this. It can't. So I had to figure out how do I deal with it so that I regularize them, so that I. O'REILLY: So how did you do that? GIULIANI: They don't commit crimes. They don't - well, we made sure that their children were allowed to go to school for which we were criticized. But if I didn't do that, I would end up with children on the streets. If I had just said well, illegal immigrants can't have their children in school. And we tried to make their lives reasonable. O'REILLY: How about city services? GIULIANI: It would have been. O'REILLY: Did you give them city money? GIULIANI: Sure, we did. If they were necessary services. We allowed them, for example, to report crimes. O'REILLY: Without being -- asked what their status was. GIULIANI: Because we wanted the criminals who were committing the crimes. O'REILLY: Right. GIULIANI: A criminal can beat up an illegal immigrant today. He can beat you up tomorrow. So we need the. O'REILLY: So you took the practical approach to it? GIULIANI: But you've got to take a practical approach to it. There are 12 million illegals in this country. We got to stop illegals from coming in. And a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security that's needed to do that. People and technology. At the same time, you've got this tremendous number of people who are below the table. As long as you don't know who they are, as long as you can't get them to come forward, you can't identify them, you can't photograph them, you have to figure out who they are, then you have a dangerous situation. O'REILLY: It's interesting. GIULIANI: Now terrorists can hide in that group. O'REILLY: Oh, absolutely. GIULIANI: And criminals can hide.

Posted by Daniel McKivergan at 05:33 PM | Immigration | Permalink

Immigration Reform

20060806 KDDC Rudy Giuliani on immigration reform

Rudy Giuliani on immigration reform
Posted August 6, 2006

I found this on the Weekly Standard's web site:

Former Mayor Giuliani is correct. Please see my Tentacle column from May 31st, 2006: "The Great Mexican Maginot Line."

According to the Weekley Standard:

Thursday, August 03, 2006

Rudy on Immigration

Last night, in an interview with Fox's Bill O'Reilly, Rudy Giuliani again put himself squarely in the president’s camp on immigration reform. The mayor is for tough border security, but he has also made the case in recent speeches that real reform must include a guest worker program and a “path to citizenship.” On Fox, Giuliani argued that comprehensive reform is not only practical but also aides in fighting crime and thwarting terrorists. Some highlights: GIULIANI: Yes, yes. National Guard short-term solution makes a lot of sense. Increasing the border patrol. O'REILLY: In the long term. GIULIANI: Long-term over a period of time would be the permanent way to do that. But you've got to seal the border. And you've got to do it with personnel. And you've got to do it with technology. You've got to have both. And we have to know who's in the United States. We need to have information about who's in this country. And then you have to have a way in which people can regularize themselves as well. I mean, you need to get people out from under the table. O'REILLY: So you would give them a pathway to citizenship? GIULIANI: I would say -- this is a classic thing where you've got to do both, carrot and stick. O'REILLY: Yes, but you got to do -- I think the stick first. GIULIANI: You've got to do both. O'REILLY: You know, you stop it and then back. When you were the mayor in New York, illegal immigration rose in this city tremendously. I mean, you can't get a cab now with an American in there. GIULIANI: But crime declined immensely…. GIULIANI: The Immigration and Naturalization Service would only deport 1,500 to 2,000 a year. So I said to myself I have 398,00 illegal immigrants because the federal government is not going to do anything about this. It can't. So I had to figure out how do I deal with it so that I regularize them, so that I. O'REILLY: So how did you do that? GIULIANI: They don't commit crimes. They don't - well, we made sure that their children were allowed to go to school for which we were criticized. But if I didn't do that, I would end up with children on the streets. If I had just said well, illegal immigrants can't have their children in school. And we tried to make their lives reasonable. O'REILLY: How about city services? GIULIANI: It would have been. O'REILLY: Did you give them city money? GIULIANI: Sure, we did. If they were necessary services. We allowed them, for example, to report crimes. O'REILLY: Without being -- asked what their status was. GIULIANI: Because we wanted the criminals who were committing the crimes. O'REILLY: Right. GIULIANI: A criminal can beat up an illegal immigrant today. He can beat you up tomorrow. So we need the. O'REILLY: So you took the practical approach to it? GIULIANI: But you've got to take a practical approach to it. There are 12 million illegals in this country. We got to stop illegals from coming in. And a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security that's needed to do that. People and technology. At the same time, you've got this tremendous number of people who are below the table. As long as you don't know who they are, as long as you can't get them to come forward, you can't identify them, you can't photograph them, you have to figure out who they are, then you have a dangerous situation. O'REILLY: It's interesting. GIULIANI: Now terrorists can hide in that group. O'REILLY: Oh, absolutely. GIULIANI: And criminals can hide.

Posted by Daniel McKivergan at 05:33 PM | Immigration | Permalink

Immigration Reform

20060805 KDDC Vietnam Memorial Visitor Center Approved

Photo by Flickr user adrummer_boy.

Vietnam Memorial Visitor Center Approved

Jeff Beam, writing in the DCist reports that the long awaited Vietnam Memorial visitor center has been approved:

The Vietnam Veterans Memorial Fund announced yesterday that their proposed Visitor Center received the final go-ahead from the National Capitol Planning Commission, which oversees the approval and design of monuments and memorials in D.C. The privately funded, $100 million complex will supplement Maya Lin’s 1982 Memorial Wall, with exhibits and programs to tell the story of the Vietnam War and commemorate the soldiers who fought it. The Visitor Center will be built just west of the Wall in the area between it and the Lincoln Memorial; however, NCPC requires that it be completely buried and hidden from view, in order to preserve the openness and visual order of the Mall. The Polshek Partnership, architect of the Clinton Library and the Newseum/Freedom Forum, was selected in 2004 to design the Center.

Read the rest of his article here.

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20060805 KDDC Guard dog destroys teddy bears

Top photo: "Security guard Greg West and his Doberman, Barney. A $75,000 teddy bear formerly owned by Elvis Presley was one of the bears destroyed when the guard dog went on the rampage on Tuesday." (I lost the link, but I bellieve this was an AP photograph.Not that it really matters with AP since AP does not recognize bloggers... and does not credit bloggers...)

Second photo down: "Barney the doberman guard dog stands over the remains of the soft toys he mauled." Photograph: Jon Mills/SWNS

The bottom picture is of the victim of this vicious and apparently unprovoked senseless attack.

Bad Dog Bad Dog - In Cold Blood

It is drama played out in many a dog owner's home, but this one has folks all shook up. According to a story filed by the Associated Press and picked up by a number of news outlets:

"LONDON - A guard dog has ripped apart a collection of rare teddy bears, including one once owned by Elvis Presley, during a rampage at a children’s museum.

“He just went berserk,” said Daniel Medley, general manager of the Wookey Hole Caves near Wells, England, where hundreds of bears were chewed up Tuesday night by the 6-year-old Doberman pinscher named Barney."

I found one of the stories here, here and here.

One wonders who the brainiac is that came up with the bright idea of having a dog guard stuffed toys...

Red Mum was very helpful in putting this post together - thanks.

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20060805 KDDC White House briefing room to be renovated

Accompanied by seven White House Press Secretaries, President George W. Bush jokes with reporters Wednesday, August 2, 2006, during the last day of operation of the James S. Brady Press Briefing Room before it undergoes a renovation. On stage with the President are, from left: Joe Lockhart, Dee Dee Myers, Marlin Fitzwater, Tony Snow, Ron Nessen, James Brady and his wife Sarah Brady. White House photo by Shealah Craighead

It's been a busy week with the Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair.

Whatever happened to the lazy days of August?

The photo above is old news - from last Wednesday, August 2nd, 2006... I grabbed the photo from the White House web site.

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20060724 KDDC Carroll Co. 4-H and FFA Fair July 29 through August 4 2006

This year's annual Carroll Co. 4-H and FFA Fair runs July 29 through August 4, 2006

For more information, go to the Fair's web site here.

20060804 FACC Forum Feedback from Mike Zimmer

Forum Feedback from Mike Zimmer

July 4^th, 2006

Carroll County Commissioner candidate Mike Zimmer took KDDC up on our offer to post feedback from the FACC Carroll County Commissioner Forum from Thursday evening, August 3^rd, 2006…

If you are a candidate for elected office in the upcoming election and you would like KDDC to post your positions, images of your billboards, feedback or whatever, we’ll be happy to do it.

And if you are aware of a forum or political event, KDDC will be happy to post it also.

Some of this stuff is almost inside baseball and it shouldn’t be. There was an event at Carroll Lutheran Village this Thursday afternoon that I was not aware of and apparently many others were not aware of it either. I got feedback that some candidates found out about it through word of mouth and many politically active folks I spoke with were also in the dark.

What’s up with that?

The better informed an electorate, the better our government.

For more information on Mr. Zimmer’s positions on the issues, click here.

Below please find pasted Mr. Zimmer’s feedback:

MICHAEL D. ZIMMER FOR COMMISSIONER

7068 Saddle Drive

Eldersburg, MD 21784

410-552-0685

“A Leader Who Listens”

PRESS RELEASE 8-4-06

On August 3^rd, FACC, The Gazette and the Eldersburg Eagle hosted the first of a number of candidate forums. In some ways the results were fairly predictable.

The questions were provided in advance. Candidates were encouraged to submit written prepared answers.

The three incumbents were there trying to defend their dismal performance in office. I was pleased with the feedback I received after the event.

I have sensed a powerful atmosphere for change in the people of Carroll County. The election results from two years ago favoring Districts were the first sign of this desire for change.

As I have been campaigning, I have noticed more and more momentum toward dissatisfaction with the incumbents. I observe this in my door-to-door campaigning, as well as the reactions I get at carnivals and parades.

As I related in the forum, Ronald Reagan said an election is a time for choosing. If you like tax hikes, vote for the incumbents. If you want tax reductions, vote for me.

If you like to watch verbal combat between the Commissioner Board and the Delegation, vote the incumbents back in. If you prefer cooperative conversation between various elected officials, then make me one of your three votes.

Together, we can turn this County around. I will lead the next Commissioner Board to refocus our education spending priorities. We must target new dollars into the classroom. We don’t need an expensive administrative building.

My career as an attorney, my community service and my leadership on the Republican Central Committee have confirmed to me the importance of listening. It seems that some elected officials never learned this concept.

It is time for change in Carroll County. It is time to elect Michael Zimmer Commissioner.

Michael D. Zimmer

Authority: Kent Johnson, Treasurer Friends of Michael D. Zimmer

20060803 Shipley Arena Floor

Shipley Arena Floor on August 1st, 2006 at 7:14 PM
(c) Kevin Dayhoff
... At the Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair

_________________

August 3^rd, 2006

2nd attempt... I got reports that the bottom picture showing the cattle aisle was not loading for folks accessing the blog by way of Microsoft's Internet Explorer. There are a number of conflicts with “blog” software and Microsoft’s Internet Explorer. Ever wonder why so many blogs suggest that the site be accessed by Mozilla Firefox?

But what further exacerbates the challenge is that 67 percent of everyone surfing the net, does so with Internet Explorer.

Meanwhile both pictures came up fine in Mozilla Firefox. A superior internet browser that Microsoft is loathe to recognize even exists. (On a related subject - I’m told that the next version of Microsoft Windows operating system, “Vista,” is NOT going to recognize Adobe PDF. Microsoft will be coming out with its own version… Now won’t that be special?)

So I attempted to simply re-load the picture – which often solves the problem.

Why, I haven’t a clue. It’s like the old joke as to how a software programmer repairs a car. By getting out of the car and getting back in again…

Soooo, much earlier this morning, I attempted to reload the picture. At first I was not able to reload the picture.

This is a frequent challenge with the “Blogger platform” I use for this blog. After I finally got the picture reloaded, then I had trouble (re)publishing the post… Another frequent problem with the blogger platform.

Ever wonder why some days there are few if any posts on the blog? Well some days I simply cannot get a post and/or a picture loaded on Blogger.

But this morning, I ran across another interesting problem. Sometimes when I cannot get a reworked post to republish, the only way to do it is to completely delete the post and start all over again.

I tried that. Well, if you scroll down, you may still see the post: “20060802 KDDC Shipley Arena Floor.”

It reminds me of Microsoft… It has been deleted but it is still there. Oh well.

Hope you are having a good day. I walked away from this blog many hours ago, in attempt to maintain what shriveled sense of sanity I still maintain. I’m told the twitching will stop soon.

A moment ago, I tried again and now I am able to load both pictures… Let’s see if it publishes?

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Originally posted on www.kevindayhoff.com: Permalink

20060803 KDDC FACC Forum questions for this evening

FACC Forum questions for this evening

August 3^rd, 2006

KDDC has been able to obtain the questions for the commissioner candidates at this evening’s forum.

I will not be attending the forum this evening. I will be going to the Fair.

If anyone would like to e-mail their impressions or anecdotes about the forum this evening, I will appreciate it.

If any candidates could e-mail their answers that will be also greatly appreciated. I will post them on KDDC.

I have been getting lots of feedback as to what questions need to be asked – much of which has been in response to my Westminster Eagle column, “What are local candidates for office proposing for the future of Carroll County?,” which appeared Wednesday, June 28^th, 2006. To read that column, click here.

If you have questions that have so far, been unanswered, please e-mail them to me and I will post them on KDDC.

The questions this evening will be asked by Gazette editor Carol Blackburn and FACC representative Ross Dangel.

The questions are:

1 Tell us about your 3 top priorities and if appropriate, attempt to explain their impact on the Freedom district.

2 If you think the county budget needs to be adjusted, what is your plan?

3 How would you change the form and operation of government in Carroll County, if at all?

4 What are your visions for growth and development in Freedom, for example, how would you address gateways, connector roads, senior population, overcrowded schools?

5 What would you do to work with the citizens of South Carroll and FACC to improve quality of life?

6 Closing remark. Discuss anything that has not been addressed in a question or clarify previous answers.

Kevin Dayhoff writes from Westminster Maryland USA.

E-mail him at: kdayhoff@carr.org

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20060803 KDDC FACC forum tonight for commissioner candidates

FACC forum tonight for commissioner candidates

Thursday, August 03, 2006

The Freedom Area Citizens' Council will host a County Commissioner Candidates' Forum tomorrow evening Thursday, Aug. 3, beginning at 7 p.m. at the Sykesville-Freedom District Fire Hall, 6680 Sykesville Road.

The forum is one of two that FACC will host prior to the Sept. 12 primary election.

On Thursday, Aug. 17, at 7 p.m., FACC will host a second forum for candidates for House of Delegates, Dist. 9B, and State Senate, District 9. That forum will be held at Century High School, Ronsdale Road, Sykesville.

This Thursday's forum will include questions to the commissioner candidates from FACC, and a chance for the candidates to offer remarks at the close.

Residents are invited to attend.

Both forums are co-sponsored by both The Eldersburg Eagle and The Sykesville Gazette newspapers.

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20060803 Best Shoes in Show as worn by a journalist

Best Shoes in Show as worn by a journalist.

August 3^rd, 2006

Carroll County 4-H FFA Fair update… And the award for “Best Shoes in Show – as worn by a journalist” goes to Carrie Ann Knauer of the Carroll County Times.

It is only fitting that Ms. Knauer won the award as she is frequently spotted around town in a t-shirt that says, “Walk in someone else’s shoes.”

Congratulations Ms. Knauer.

Kevin Dayhoff writes from Westminster Maryland USA. E-mail him at: kdayhoff@carr.org www.thetentacle.com Westminster Eagle Opinion and Winchester Report www.thewestminstereagle.com www.kevindayhoff.com has moved to http://kevindayhoff.blogspot.com/

20060802 KDDC Shipley Arena Floor

Shipley Arena Floor on August 1st, 2006 at 7:14 PM
(c) Kevin Dayhoff
... At the Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair

_________________

2nd attempt... I got reports that the bottom picture showing the cattle aisle was not loading for folks accessing the blog by way of Microsoft's Internet Explorer. There are a number of conflicts with “blog” software and Microsoft’s Internet Explorer. Ever wonder why so many blogs suggest that the site be accessed by Mozilla Firefox?

But what further exacerbates the challenge is that 67 percent of everyone surfing the net, does so with Internet Explorer.

Meanwhile both pictures came up fine in Mozilla Firefox. A superior internet browser that Microsoft is loathe to recognize even exists. (On a related subject - I’m told that the next version of Microsoft Windows operating system, “Vista,” is NOT going to recognize Adobe PDF. Microsoft will be coming out with its own version… Now won’t that be special?)

So I attempted to simply re-load the picture – which often solves the problem.

Why, I haven’t a clue. It’s like the old joke as to how a software programmer repairs a car. By getting out of the car and getting back in again…

Soooo, much earlier this morning, I attempted to reload the picture. At first I was not able to reload the picture.

This is a frequent challenge with the “Blogger platform” I use for this blog. After I finally got the picture reloaded, then I had trouble (re)publishing the post… Another frequent problem with the blogger platform.

Ever wonder why some days there are few if any posts on the blog? Well some days I simply cannot get a post and/or a picture loaded on Blogger.

But this morning, I ran across another interesting problem. Sometimes when I cannot get a reworked post to republish, the only way to do it is to completely delete the post and start all over again.

I tried that. Well, if you scroll down, you may still see the post: “20060802 KDDC Shipley Arena Floor.”

It reminds me of Microsoft… It has been deleted but it is still there. Oh well.

Hope you are having a good day. I walked away from this blog many hours ago, in attempt to maintain what shriveled sense of sanity I still maintain. I’m told the twitching will stop soon.

A moment ago, I tried again and now I am able to load both pictures… Let’s see if it publishes?

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20060803 Carroll County Fair schedule for Thursday, August 3 2006

Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair schedule for Thursday, August 3rd, 2006

Thursday, August 3, 2006

7 a.m. – 9 a.m. Dining Hall Open

7 a.m. – 10 a.m. Breakfast Available at Shipley Arena

8 a.m. – 9 a.m. Senior Citizen Exhibits Entered and Judged

8 a.m. – 10 p.m. Indoor Exhibit Buildings Open To Public

8:30 a.m. Dairy Cattle Fitting and Showing Contest

9 a.m. – 5 p.m. Informal Demonstrations – To Be Posted Daily

10 a.m. – 12 noon Small Pet Exhibits Entered and Judged

10 a.m. Poultry Judging Contest

11 a.m. – 7 p.m. Dining Hall Open

12 noon Beef Cattle Fitting and Showing Contest followed by Dairy Steer Fitting and

Showing Contest and Dairy Steer Show (Dairy Steer events begin at

approximately 2:30 p.m.)

1 p.m. Written Rabbit Judging Contest

1 p.m. – 2 p.m. Sr. Citizen Social Time – “Flynnatra” - Steve Flynn singing Frank Sinatra

music (Activities Tent)

2:30 p.m. Dairy Steer Fitting & Showing Contest followed by Dairy Steer Show

5 p.m. “Chick” Parade; “Cow Pie Bingo”

6 p.m. Beef Steer Show; Carroll County 4-H Drill Team

6:30 p.m. Grandparent’s Contest Winners Announced

7:00 p.m. Mule Pull; “Dancing Under the Stars” Activity Tent; Rabbit Awards

Program

9:45 p.m. Club Raffle Contest closes

20060802 KDDC Pizza for the IDF

Pizza for the IDF

Hat Tip: Wonkette

This is priceless.

Hey, soldiers gotta eat.

Just so it does nothing to interfere with Israel's proportional response to Hamas and Hezbollah's continued killing of innocent Israelis just because they are Jewish.

If Hamas and Hezbollah wanna be a part of the Palestinian or Lebanon's government, I have no beef with that - as long as they verbalize their non compos mentis hatred and stop lobbing rockets across the border. As long as Hamas and Hezbollah wanna resort to violence, the Israelis need to bomb Gaza and Southern Lebanon back into the stone age.

And oh, as one astute commenter on Wonkette's site noted - no I can't imagine that they deliver cheeseburgers.

Anyway, 'bout them pizzas - click here.
What a great idea.

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20060802 KDDC The 2005 Grand Champion Best Shoes in Show

The 2005 Grand Champion Best Shoes in Show Award

Yes folks, there was a Grand Champion Best Shoes in Show Award for last year's Fair.

It was won by this community leader. Can you name this person?

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20060802 KDDC Carroll County Fair Management Team Moments

Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair Management Team Moments
August 1st, 2006 by Kevin Dayhoff

20060802 KDDC 20060801 Ag Center Sunset

"20060801 Ag Center Sunset"
(c) Kevin Dayhoff
August 1st, 2006 at 7:37 PM

20060802 Best Shoes in Show No 2

"Best Shoes in Show No. 2"
Kevin Dayhoff August 1, 2006

20060802 Best Shoes in Show

Best Shoes in Show

At the Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair, there are many exciting contests, competitions and judging events.

While attending the Rabbit Barn dedication last Sunday, July 30^th, 2006, I spotted what are, to date, the best shoes in show, at least so far. They belong to Kathy Harden.

Always endeavoring to bring you the latest in cutting edge reporting on the Carroll County Fair, we present, “Best Shoes in Show,” – at least what I have observed so far.

As the Fair continues, I’m sure to have more entries – stay tuned.

When told of her award in a cell phone interview, Ms. Harden responded, “No comment, just like a politician…”

When you spot Ms. Harden at the Fair throughout the rest of the week, be sure to compliment her on her shoes. She’ll be thrilled.

Kevin Dayhoff writes from Westminster Maryland USA.

E-mail him at: kdayhoff@carr.org

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20060802 The 2005 Grand Champion Best Shoes in Show

The 2005 Grand Champion Best Shoes in Show Award

Yes folks, there was a Grand Champion Best Shoes in Show Award for last year's Fair.

It was won by this community leader. Can you name this person?

Tom Hiltz

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Westminster Eagle - Katie V. Jones: Kathryn Frock touts merits of 4-H life

Westminster Eagle - Katie V. Jones: Kathryn Frock touts merits of 4-H life

Fair 'queen' touts merits of 4-H life 07/26/06 By Katie V. Jones

http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=978&NewsID=735396&CategoryID=17320&on=1

http://kevindayhoff.blogspot.com/2006/08/westminster-eagle-katie-v-jones-kathryn.html

Labels: 4H, 4H Carroll Co 4H FFA Fair, Ag Carroll Co MD Ag Center, People Frock Kathryn, People obituaries

When Kathryn Frock joined 4-H in 1934, there were girl 4-H clubs and boy 4-H clubs. If you lived on a farm and worked with animals, however, you were allowed to belong to a "co-ed club."

In those days the fair was held in Taneytown, before moving to its current location behind the Agricultural Center in Westminster.

To build the buildings at the new site, the 4-H clubs raised money through various methods such as making moccasins and selling household "guidebooks."

At 89, Frock has more than 60 years of memories of being in 4-H, first as a member, then as a leader and currently as a judge.

She no longer judges at the Baltimore, Howard and Montgomery county fairs, but the Westminster resident remains active with her beloved Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair, which opens this week.

"I had to cut some of those out because it is pretty far for me to drive," Frock chuckles, talking about the other fairs. "I can't do as much as I used to do. I can't stand on my feet so long."

As a 4-H leader, Frock helped start the Westminster 4-H Club and the 4-H Horticulture Club. She took an active role in the running of the 4-H snowball stand.

"I would line up all the people to work the three, four-hour shifts," Frock said. "Leaders, 4-H'ers, parents, friends, anybody I could get. I used to be in that snowball stand a lot."

Every year, the fair has grown, according to Frock, with more exhibits, more youth and more animals.

"It takes an awful lot of people to run that fair," Frock said. "It takes 80 to 100 people just to run the snowball stand. There's an ice cream stand, a soft drink, sandwich, iced tea stand, a restaurant that serves three meals a day.

"Volunteers volunteer more than one time."

Andy Cashman, livestock superintendent for the fair, says Frock's commitment to 4-H is admirable.

"This day and age it is tougher and tougher to get people to volunteer," Cashman said. "The kids think it is pretty neat that she's been involved. It is pretty important to her."

Both of Frock's children were in 4-H, and now her grandchildren are, too.

"It is a very educational program," Frock said of 4-H. "There are all kinds of things you can do in 4-H."

While Frock participated in projects such as sewing, knitting, crocheting, needlework, canning and jelly making, she has judged crafts, horticulture and food projects.

It isn't always easy being a judge, especially when choosing the grand champion of a class.

"At the fair, you're displaying all of what you've done over the year and being judged on it," Frock said. "The judge tells them the good ... and the things they could improve on."

"Sometimes picking out the (champion) is hard because a couple can be very close," Frock said. "A 4-H leader knows what to look for. What they (4-H'ers) are supposed to be doing is learning by doing, and making the best better."

Frock plans to continue being active with 4-H and can't wait until this year's fair gets fully under way tomorrow.

"She gets her own parking spot at the top," Cashman said. "Anybody who does all she does deserves it. She's a wonderful lady who puts a lot of effort into the program."

Parking spot or not, Frock will be attending this year's fair, adding to her collection of memories.

"I don't know whether there is a favorite part," Frock said, of her years in 4-H. "I like it all."

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Related – Update:

Kathryn A. Myers Frock, 94, of #Westminster, died April 26, 2012

Thursday, April 26, 2012

Kathryn A. Myers Frock, 94, of Westminster, died April 26, 2012 at Emeritus at Westminster. http://www.prittsfuneralhome.com/vcalendar/event_view.php?event_id=245

http://kevindayhoffwestgov-net.blogspot.com/2012/04/kathryn-myers-frock-94-of-westminster.html

Labels: 4H, 4H Carroll Co 4H FFA Fair, Ag Carroll Co MD Ag Center, People Frock Kathryn, People obituaries

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20060802 KDDC Best Shoes in Show No 2

"Best Shoes in Show No. 2"
Kevin Dayhoff August 1, 2006

20060802 KDDC Joe and the Big Rabbit

“Joe and the Big Rabbit”

© Kevin Dayhoff

August 2^nd, 2006

At the Roche Rabbit Barn dedication last Sunday, after Joe Getty spoke for several minutes and delivered a proclamation from Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich, this candid moment was captured in which it would appear that Mr. Joe Getty is talking with Mr. Big Rabbit. Inquiring minds wanna know just what they may have been discussing?

(And yes, that is Senator Larry Haines and his wife Jane in the top photograph, in the top left hand corner of the photo.)

Kevin Dayhoff writes from Westminster Maryland USA.

E-mail him at: kdayhoff@carr.org

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20060802 KDDC Bath time at the Carroll County Fair

"Bath Time at the Fair #1"
by Kevin Dayhoff August 1st, 2006

20060802 KDDC Roche Rabbit Barn Dedication pictures

July 30^th, 2006 Roche Rabbit Barn Dedication pictures

Above please find some pictures from the Ellen Marie and Deanna Roche Rabbit Barn dedication at the Carroll County 4-H and FFA Fair on Sunday, July 30^th, 2006.

Mr. Bernard J. Roche, Carroll County Commissioner Dean Minnich and Jim Woods presented remarks and Joe Getty delivered a gubernatorial proclamation on behalf of Governor Robert L. Ehrlich, who was unable to attend the event. The invocation was delivered by Reverend Louis Piel and the dedication presented by Reverend Stacy Marsh.

Senator Larry Haines also attended, with his wife, Jane, but he did not speak. It is well known in the Carroll and Baltimore County agriculture community that Senator Haines is a great friend of the business of agriculture. He has also been very supportive of the Carroll County Agriculture Center and the Carroll County Fair.

The members of the Carroll County 4-H Rabbit and Cavy Club wanted to be sure to thank a number of folks for their help in making this important building happen and to help insure the future of the 4-H rabbit program in 4-H.

Folks and organizations and businesses who went out their way to contribute were: Kevin Brown Contracting; Jane and Kevin Brown and Family; Burgermeister Bell; The Carroll County Agriculture Center Board; The Carroll County Fair Board; The Carroll County 4-H Rabbit and Cavy Club; The Carroll County Rabbit and Cavy Breeders Association; Herb Close; David and Debbie Franc and Family; Harden Concrete Construction; Kathy and Kurt Harden and Family; Charles McLamb; C.J. Miller; Rashe Brothers; Bernard and Carolyn Roche and Family; T. J. and Jennifer Spampinato; Bob and Kate Valtin and Family; Michael and Sherry Wade; Michael Wade Jr.; and the Woods-Mladjenovich family.

Our community owes a debt a gratitude to everyone who contributed.

If you have not had a chance to visit the Roche Rabbit Barn at the Fair, please make time available to tour this wonderful facility. It is a great addition to the Fair and the Ag Center complex.

Of course, as is pretty well known, Caroline and I are especially fond of rabbits.

Raising rabbits was one of my projects when I was a 4-H’er, along with public speaking and photography. It is where and when I learned many life skills that have served me well – as it will for the many 4-H’ers who work hard year round learning and participating in programs that will also serve them well as they assume future leadership positions in our great community.

There are two very good newspaper articles that will give you some excellent background on the Roche Rabbit Barn and the dedication.

On July 23^rd, Gina Davis penned article for the Baltimore Sun: “For animal lover, barn is fit memorial - Rabbit facility at county fair honors memory of former 4-H'er.” That article is still on the web and can be found here.

The day after the dedication, the Carroll County Times published, “Friends, family gather to remember mother and daughter, dedicate barn,” by Penny Riordan, Times Staff Writer. That article can be found here.

Remember, neither the Sun nor the Times uses permalinks, so go view the articles as soon as possible. Both publications only have the articles easily available for about two weeks or so.

See ya at the Fair.

Kevin Dayhoff writes from Westminster Maryland USA.

E-mail him at: kdayhoff@carr.org

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